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		<title>Show 009 &#8211; Ron and John, Part Three</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 01 Nov 2005 07:33:25 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Clay</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[In part three, directors and writers Ron Clements and John Musker describe their writing process as well as developing The Little Mermaid and Aladdin. Get the MP3 here: Show 9: Ron and John, Part Three (11.9MB, 25:27 minutes) Or get the enhanced version playable only in Quicktime or iTunes Get the AAC here: Show 9: [...]


Related posts:<ol><li><a href='http://animationpodcast.com/ronandjohn-part-one/' rel='bookmark' title='Show 007 &#8211; Ron and John, Part One'>Show 007 &#8211; Ron and John, Part One</a></li>
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<div id="poster"><a href="http://www.animationpodcast.com/archives/2005/10/31/ronandjohn-part-three/"><img src="http://www.animationpodcast.com/images/RnJ_part3.jpg" alt="Ron Clements and John Musker" title="Ron and John" /></a></div>
<p>In part three, directors and writers <a href="http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0166256/?fr=c2l0ZT1kZnx0dD0xfGZiPXV8cG49MHxrdz0xfHE9cm9uIGNsZW1lbnRzfGZ0PTF8bXg9MjB8bG09NTAwfGNvPTF8aHRtbD0xfG5tPTE_;fc=1;ft=21">Ron Clements</a> and <a href="http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0615780/?fr=c2l0ZT1kZnx0dD0xfGZiPXV8cG49MHxrdz0xfHE9am9obiBtdXNrZXJ8ZnQ9MXxteD0yMHxsbT01MDB8Y289MXxodG1sPTF8bm09MQ__;fc=1;ft=20">John Musker</a> describe their writing process as well as developing The Little Mermaid and Aladdin.</p>
<p>Get the MP3 here: <a href="http://libsyn.com/media/animationpodcast/AP009.mp3">Show 9: Ron and John, Part Three</a><br />
<a href="http://libsyn.com/media/animationpodcast/AP009.mp3"><img src="http://www.animationpodcast.com/images/podcastlogo.gif" alt="Animation Podcast Show 9 MP3"/></a></p>
<p>(11.9MB, 25:27 minutes)</p>
<p>Or get the enhanced version playable only in Quicktime or iTunes<br />
Get the AAC here: <a href="http://libsyn.com/media/animationpodcast/AP009.m4b">Show 9: Ron and John, Part Three</a><br />
<a href="http://libsyn.com/media/animationpodcast/AP009.m4b"><img src="http://www.animationpodcast.com/images/podcastaaclogo.gif" alt="Animation Podcast Show 9 AAC"/></a><br />
<br />(11.6MB, 25:27 minutes)</p>
<p>Continue for Show Notes&#8230;</p>
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<ul>
<li>0:00:00: The Intro Voice
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<li>0:00:05: Welcome
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<li>0:00:30: Approach to writing
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<li>0:03:12: Writing The Little Mermaid/Howard Ashman
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<li>0:04:26: Excitement about Mermaid
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<li>0:05:45: Expectations of Mermaid
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<li>0:07:38: Studio support for animation
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<li>0:09:08: Animation&#8217;s potential
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<li>0:11:28: The success of Mermaid
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<li>0:12:33: Mermaid going to video
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<li>0:13:20: Transformation of the studio
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<li>0:13:45: Choosing projects
</li>
<li>0:15:58: Giving Aladdin a hook for animation
</li>
<li>0:17:47: Eric Goldberg&#8217;s influence on the animation
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<li>0:20:21: Bringing in new talent, Duncan Marjoribanks
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<li>0:21:40: The last film with one crew
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<li>0:23:14: Conclusion
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<li>0:23:25: Phone calls
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<li>0:24:42: Feedback info
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<li>0:25:14: <a href="http://www.frappr.com/animationpodcastlisteners">Listener map</a>
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<p>Related posts:<ol><li><a href='http://animationpodcast.com/ronandjohn-part-one/' rel='bookmark' title='Show 007 &#8211; Ron and John, Part One'>Show 007 &#8211; Ron and John, Part One</a></li>
<li><a href='http://animationpodcast.com/ronandjohn-part-two/' rel='bookmark' title='Show 008 &#8211; Ron and John, Part Two'>Show 008 &#8211; Ron and John, Part Two</a></li>
<li><a href='http://animationpodcast.com/milt-kahl-side-two/' rel='bookmark' title='Show 013 &#8211; Vault &#8211; Milt Kahl, Side Two'>Show 013 &#8211; Vault &#8211; Milt Kahl, Side Two</a></li>
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		<title>Show 008 &#8211; Ron and John, Part Two</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 30 Sep 2005 09:14:59 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Clay</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[In part two, directors and writers Ron Clements and John Musker detail how they made the transition from animating to the story department to directing. Something interesting in this one: in Part Two, Ron &#038; John talk about the days when Michael Eisner arrived at Disney. It&#8217;s a coincidence that today Eisner is giving his [...]


Related posts:<ol><li><a href='http://animationpodcast.com/ronandjohn-part-one/' rel='bookmark' title='Show 007 &#8211; Ron and John, Part One'>Show 007 &#8211; Ron and John, Part One</a></li>
<li><a href='http://animationpodcast.com/ronandjohn-part-three/' rel='bookmark' title='Show 009 &#8211; Ron and John, Part Three'>Show 009 &#8211; Ron and John, Part Three</a></li>
<li><a href='http://animationpodcast.com/show-31-disney-talent-development-alumni-animation-mentor-exclusive/' rel='bookmark' title='Show 31* &#8211; Disney Talent Development Alumni (*Animation Mentor Exclusive)'>Show 31* &#8211; Disney Talent Development Alumni (*Animation Mentor Exclusive)</a></li>
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<div id="poster"><a href="http://www.animationpodcast.com/archives/2005/09/12/ronandjohn-part-two/"><img src="http://www.animationpodcast.com/images/RnJ_part2.jpg" alt="Ron Clements and John Musker" title="Ron and John" /></a></div>
<p>In part two, directors and writers <a href="http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0166256/?fr=c2l0ZT1kZnx0dD0xfGZiPXV8cG49MHxrdz0xfHE9cm9uIGNsZW1lbnRzfGZ0PTF8bXg9MjB8bG09NTAwfGNvPTF8aHRtbD0xfG5tPTE_;fc=1;ft=21">Ron Clements</a> and <a href="http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0615780/?fr=c2l0ZT1kZnx0dD0xfGZiPXV8cG49MHxrdz0xfHE9am9obiBtdXNrZXJ8ZnQ9MXxteD0yMHxsbT01MDB8Y289MXxodG1sPTF8bm09MQ__;fc=1;ft=20">John Musker</a> detail how they made the transition from animating to the story department to directing. </p>
<p>Something interesting in this one: in Part Two, Ron &#038; John talk about the days when Michael Eisner arrived at Disney. It&#8217;s a coincidence that today Eisner is giving his going away speech on the studio lot.</p>
<p>Get it here: <a href="http://libsyn.com/media/animationpodcast/AP008.mp3" target="_new">Show 8: Ron and John, Part Two</a><br />
<a href="http://libsyn.com/media/animationpodcast/AP008.mp3"><img src="http://www.animationpodcast.com/images/podcastlogo.gif" alt="Animation Podcast Show 8 MP3"/></a></p>
<p>(12.1MB, 26:16 minutes)</p>
<p>Continue for Show Notes&#8230;</p>
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<ul>
<li>0:00:00: The Intro Voice
</li>
<li>0:00:12: Welcome
</li>
<li>0:00:34: John directing on Black Cauldron (BC)
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<li>0:03:28: Tim Burton on BC
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<li>0:04:29: Story Development on BC
</li>
<li>0:05:56: Great Mouse Detective (GMD) splits off from BC
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<li>0:07:58: Threat of a takeover of Disney
</li>
<li>0:08:52: Joe Ranft &#038; the original tone of GMD
</li>
<li>0:10:45: Burny Mattinson &#038; other projects around
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<li>0:11:59: Second take on GMD
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<li>0:16:20: How they became directors
</li>
<li>0:18:00: Pitching ideas at the Gong Show
</li>
<li>0:20:21: Little Mermaid going in to development
</li>
<li>0:22:05: Howard Ashman
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<li>0:23:30: Disney moving in a new direction
</li>
<li>0:25:41: Conclusion of Part 2
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<li>0:25:45: How to comment or ask questions<br />
<a href="http://www.podcastalley.com/one_vote2.php?pod_id=3138">Vote @ Podcast Alley</a></p>
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<p>Related posts:<ol><li><a href='http://animationpodcast.com/ronandjohn-part-one/' rel='bookmark' title='Show 007 &#8211; Ron and John, Part One'>Show 007 &#8211; Ron and John, Part One</a></li>
<li><a href='http://animationpodcast.com/ronandjohn-part-three/' rel='bookmark' title='Show 009 &#8211; Ron and John, Part Three'>Show 009 &#8211; Ron and John, Part Three</a></li>
<li><a href='http://animationpodcast.com/show-31-disney-talent-development-alumni-animation-mentor-exclusive/' rel='bookmark' title='Show 31* &#8211; Disney Talent Development Alumni (*Animation Mentor Exclusive)'>Show 31* &#8211; Disney Talent Development Alumni (*Animation Mentor Exclusive)</a></li>
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		<title>Show 007 &#8211; Ron and John, Part One</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 12 Sep 2005 12:06:50 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Clay</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[The Great Mouse Detective, The Little Mermaid, Aladdin, Hercules, Treasure Planet Ever seen one of these movies? In part one of the interview, directors and writers Ron Clements and John Musker talk about getting in to Disney in the seventies, the first year of Cal Arts, and working under Frank Thomas and Cliff Nordberg. This [...]


Related posts:<ol><li><a href='http://animationpodcast.com/ronandjohn-part-two/' rel='bookmark' title='Show 008 &#8211; Ron and John, Part Two'>Show 008 &#8211; Ron and John, Part Two</a></li>
<li><a href='http://animationpodcast.com/ronandjohn-part-three/' rel='bookmark' title='Show 009 &#8211; Ron and John, Part Three'>Show 009 &#8211; Ron and John, Part Three</a></li>
<li><a href='http://animationpodcast.com/burny-mattinson-part-one/' rel='bookmark' title='Show 016 &#8211; Burny Mattinson, Part One'>Show 016 &#8211; Burny Mattinson, Part One</a></li>
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<div id="poster"><a href="http://www.animationpodcast.com/archives/2005/09/12/ronandjohn-part-one/"><img src="http://www.animationpodcast.com/images/RnJ_part1.gif" alt="Ron Clements and John Musker" title="Ron and John" /></a></div>
<p><a href="http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0091149/">The Great Mouse Detective</a>, <a href="http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0097757/">The Little Mermaid</a>, <a href="http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0103639/">Aladdin</a>, <a href="http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0119282/">Hercules</a>, <a href="http://">Treasure Planet</a><br />
Ever seen one of these movies? In part one of the interview, directors and writers <a href="http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0166256/?fr=c2l0ZT1kZnx0dD0xfGZiPXV8cG49MHxrdz0xfHE9cm9uIGNsZW1lbnRzfGZ0PTF8bXg9MjB8bG09NTAwfGNvPTF8aHRtbD0xfG5tPTE_;fc=1;ft=21">Ron Clements</a> and <a href="http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0615780/?fr=c2l0ZT1kZnx0dD0xfGZiPXV8cG49MHxrdz0xfHE9am9obiBtdXNrZXJ8ZnQ9MXxteD0yMHxsbT01MDB8Y289MXxodG1sPTF8bm09MQ__;fc=1;ft=20">John Musker</a> talk about getting in to Disney in the seventies, the first year of Cal Arts, and working under Frank Thomas and Cliff Nordberg.</p>
<p>This will be a brief detour from the Nik Ranieri series since today marks the first day that Ron and John no longer work at Disney. After 32 years for Ron and 28 years for John, there&#8217;s a big hole in the heart of the feature animation building. I&#8217;m posting for two groups: those who have never met Ron and John &#8211; enjoy; those who know Ron and John &#8211; I thought hearing their voices might make the halls seem a little less empty today.</p>
<p>The drawing portion of the above image (if you can see it) is an example of John Musker&#8217;s peerless caricature style.</p>
<p>Get it here: <a href="http://libsyn.com/media/animationpodcast/AP_2005_09_12.mp3" target="_new">Show 7: Ron and John, Part One</a><br />
<a href="http://libsyn.com/media/animationpodcast/AP_2005_09_12.mp3"><img src="http://www.animationpodcast.com/images/podcastlogo.gif" alt="Animation Podcast Show 7 MP3"/></a></p>
<p>(14.7MB, 32:02 minutes)</p>
<p>Continue for Show Notes&#8230;</p>
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<ul>
<li>00:00:00: The Intro Voice
</li>
<li>00:00:05: Theme Song by DJ Sweettooth
</li>
<li>00:00:49: Welcome
</li>
<li>00:02:18: Where they came from
</li>
<li>00:03:56: Ron&#8217;s work in TV news
</li>
<li>00:05:13: Meeting at Disney
</li>
<li>00:06:04: John &#8211; Getting interested in Disney
</li>
<li>00:08:33: John &#8211; Accepted to Cal Arts first year
</li>
<li>00:09:51: John &#8211; Hired at Disney
</li>
<li>00:10:06: Ron &#8211; Hired at Disney
</li>
<li>00:11:35: Ron &#8211; First work at Disney
</li>
<li>00:11:52: Ron &#8211; Working with Frank Thomas
</li>
<li>00:12:47: Ron &#8211; Supervising on Fox and the Hound
</li>
<li>00:14:29: Ron &#8211; Moving in to story
</li>
<li>00:14:51: John &#8211; Fox and the Hound with Cliff Nordberg
</li>
<li>00:15:47: Frank Thomas, the impossible dream
</li>
<li>00:16:24: Cliff Nordberg&#8217;s approach
</li>
<li>00:16:54: The Small One
</li>
<li>00:18:19: Cal Arts generation and the Don Bluth group
</li>
<li>00:20:48: Quality of the work at the time
</li>
<li>00:21:16: The Black Cauldron
</li>
<li>00:22:16: Schism of the studio
</li>
<li>00:22:43: Fox and the Hound, animation crossroads
</li>
<li>00:23:53: Working with legends
</li>
<li>00:25:30: Inspired by Disney movies
</li>
<li>00:25:59: The drawing in 2D animation
</li>
<li>00:28:32: What to focus on now with 3D
</li>
<li>00:29:32: Conclusion of Part 1 / Voice Messages<br />
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<li>00:31:20: How to comment or ask questions<br />
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<p>Related posts:<ol><li><a href='http://animationpodcast.com/ronandjohn-part-two/' rel='bookmark' title='Show 008 &#8211; Ron and John, Part Two'>Show 008 &#8211; Ron and John, Part Two</a></li>
<li><a href='http://animationpodcast.com/ronandjohn-part-three/' rel='bookmark' title='Show 009 &#8211; Ron and John, Part Three'>Show 009 &#8211; Ron and John, Part Three</a></li>
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